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Obama . . . . . Got You.
Go Here to redstate.com and read the logical explanation of events related to the Obama flap on Live Birth Botched Abortions. It is clear that what he is saying now about the Illinois legislation is not true and his office has admitted to that being the case in some part. When he called the Pro Lifers that were involved in this legislation in IL “Liars” he was lying himself. If you heard him state it you know it wasn’t a casual comment but a structured and well stated charge. Change we can believe in? …No change here.
Obama……………..
As I understand it, this puts the burden on the attending physician who has determined, since they were performing this procedure, that, in fact, this is a nonviable fetus; that if that fetus, or child - however way you want to describe it - is now outside the mother’s womb and the doctor continues to think that it’s nonviable but there’s, let’s say, movement or some indication that, in fact, they’re not just coming out limp and dead, that, in fact, they would then have to call a second physician to monitor and check off and make sure that this is not a live child that could be saved.
Above My Pay Grade
If you watched the Rick Warren interviews of both Obama and McCain you may recall interesting while divergent answers to a legitimate question. The question was…..”when does life begin?” This is not a flippant remark but an age old question that has shaped the debate over abortion from its inception.
The original position of the so called “pro choice” crowd was that “viability” constituted when life actually began. Ok that is an understandable position even though the dating of viability was difficult for us to determine, especially since there have been many instants of preemies living when the “authorities” would have given it no chance, but at least during this early era the pro choice adherents believed that there was a pre-natal time when our concept of “life” (not merely Biological) began and that they didn’t believe it began at conception.
This was important to them because to have any other position would have been a moral violation even in their own minds. Over the years the position of the hard core “pro choicers” migrated to literally being there is no pre birth point where you are committing a moral violation. For some (and we’ll discuss who some of these are at another time) have degenerated to believe it is appropriate to allow a live birth of a child to die without care if such live birth is the result of a “botched” abortion effort (yes, it happens).
You might find it interesting know that both McCain and Obama gave clear and revealing answers to this question. In McCain’s response he jumped right out and stated “at birth.” In Obama’s case he stammered a moment and then stated that such an answer was “above his pay grade.” If there is anyone that is reading this post that didn’t understand that answer please comment here, but I’ll say that what he said meant that he didn’t know (i.e. only God knows).
Mr. Obama has failed the most basic of morality tests, one that has resulted in 48.5 million abortions since 1973 (Roe v Wade), almost as many as WWII’s 55 million. If Mr. Obama is elected and he appoints judges that affirm this decision it won’t be long at all until there is more blood on his hand than the left likes to charge George W. Bush.
Sheesh………………If this isn’t a deal breaker for you I’d say you have to reorder your priorities.
Who are the Terrorists?
I was reading Neil Simpson’s blog 4Simpsons Blog and saw graphic above on his sidebar. I really like the graphics that Neil uses on his blog and have borrowed them and used them here before. The thesis of this statement is “Since the start of the Iraq War 5,444,155 American Children have died from ABORTION.
This caused me to remember when Rosie grossly overstated the number of deaths in Iraq since the war and then implied that they were all cause by the Americans when she said, ”650,000 Iraqi have been killed since the beginning of the Iraq war, ….Who Are the Terrorists?” This of course was the source of the major controversy and argument between Elisabeth Hasselbeck and Rosie leading to her Rosie’s quitting the VIEW on ABC.
With this information running through my head I decided to send email to Elisabeth at the VIEW and I stated the following.
Since the start of the Iraq War 5,444,155 American children have died from ABORTION. In the words of Rosie O’Donnell “Who are the Terrorists?”
I wonder if Rosie in all her brilliance has that answer.
The Morality of Abortion
“The progeny of two humans is always a human. That’s just biology.”
I just read a post from Helvidius, a Pachyderm including the quote above by theobromophile its owner. You should check it out. I was going to post a comment and decided that I wanted to expand my comment to a post of my own. I had been doing some research for just this occasion and here it is:
Since I have been examining the question of abortion since 1967 it seems that the basic question comes to the “personhood” of Read more
The Hilderbeast has Spoken
From her own Hillary for President website yesterday 4/18/2007:
Washington, DC — “This decision marks a dramatic departure from four decades of Supreme Court rulings that upheld a woman’s right to choose and recognized the importance of women’s health. Today’s decision blatantly defies the Court’s recent decision in 2000 striking down a state partial-birth abortion law because of its failure to provide an exception for the health of the mother. As the Supreme Court recognized in Roe v. Wade in 1973, this issue is complex and highly personal; the rights and lives of women must be taken into account. It is precisely this erosion of our constitutional rights that I warned against when I opposed the nominations of Chief Justice Roberts and Justice Alito.”
I really find it both interesting and disgusting that she has chosen to attack the Supreme Court on the grounds of “Erosion of Our Constitutional Rights.” Legal scholars (including those that are pro-abortion) understand and Read more
Partial Birth Abortion
Bravo !!!!! Today the Supreme Court in a 5-4 decision upheld the ban on Partial Birth Abortions. Come on, if this decision is offensive to you get real. This is a bright line between Abortion and Infanticide. The opinion was written by Justice Kennedy and joined by Chief Justice Roberts and Justice Alito. Justices Thomas and Scalia joined in the final decision as well. Although I am most profoundly “pro life” I really can’t see how the pro-abortion crowd can’t distinguish this from infanticide. Former ACLU attorney Justice Ruth (Buzzie) Ginzberg has written the dissent for the minority stating “Today’s decision is alarming,” she further charged that the ruling “refused to take seriously previous Supreme Court decisions on abortion.” (so sorry Ruthie) Praise for this decision has already come from: McCain, Romney, Giuliani. Barack Obama has strongly criticized the decision. Of course Planned Parenthood has also criticized the decision. We will have to wait to examine how strongly the other contenders and pretenders in the Democratic presidential nomination race express their disgust.